Thursday, August 23, 2012

Insightful and Brilliant Political Posts and Quotes by liberals and independents, etc. on Yahoo News and Huffpost Political Articles

Overheard (seen) comments on various Yahoo News and Huffpost posts, political in nature, from various posters whom I deem (and are) liberal, independent, middle of the road and maybe some smart conservatives
mixed in as well:

From Huffpost, various commentary and articles:

outlandish

7533 Fans

"I can't fathom Mitt at all; it's like he wants to throw the whole game by being so out of touch that he doesn't realize he has become a parody off all that's wrong with the country.

Nobody with a functioning set of synapsis and a working central cortex believes that Mitt is on their side and the nearest thing he has to a true believer, is somebody who is either ABO or a nose holding grimaced, habitual Republican voter, moderates are definitely on to Mitt by now and know that he has contradicted every position he's ever held, including one or two that he made up to see if the Media
and public were even bothered paying attention.

It turns out that to save Mitt's America; you have to destroy the culture and access to information that is not controlled by corporations in the form of advertising. Now that is one audacious form of pernicious control of an independent voice, untarnished by the lure of doing or saying anything to pay the bills and turn a profit.

If the warning bells aren't going off at the loss of what should be a given, a voice that is not beholding to those that own every other voice of influence in the US. The other mega savings he wants to make so as to give himself a larger tax breaks, is the accumulated culture of America that makes it America.

The arts are the soul of the nation and ironically a major revenue spinner for the nation, All forms of arts, whether mainstream or fringe are as much a part of the national fabric as consuming, working, eating and breathing.

When you cut funding to culture, you cut the umbilical cord to civilization.

A dull world might be conducive to high work rate and productivity but it isn't a life worth living."

Bronxdude

6572 Fans

"Similar to the Obama Recovery Plan, Clinton raised taxes on millionaires (generating the largest surplus in history - $756 billion), cut middleclass taxes, and created 22 million jobs. But as demonstrated by Reagan (18 million job loss/10.1% unemployment), Bush 41 (13 million job loss/ 8.3% unemployment), and Bush 43 (15 million job loss/8.7% unemployment), deficit creating trillion dollar tax cuts for the top 2% stifles job growth. As a collateral benefit of improved cash flow, jobs are created when middleclass consumers enjoy increased purchasing power derived from increases in disposable income made possible by decreases in payroll, income, and property tax -- provisions Republicans stubbornly oppose for the bottom 98% (according to the Ryan budget, tax cuts for the top 2% are offset by tax increases for the bottom 97%). So when Mitt says he supports tax cuts, he's talking about his buddies teeing off at Sag Harbor, not middleclass Americans -- the lifeline for our economy. Since 2008, middleclass families have received an annual income tax reduction of $3600, while a record number of small businesses have benefited by way of substantial tax cuts (97% of all small businesses earn less than $250,000 annually; in fact, letting the Bush tax cuts expire would lead to a tax increase for less than 3% of small businesses). Extending tax cuts on income of less than $250,000 and letting the top tax rate go from 35 to 39.6% would create 17 million jobs and generate $900 billion in revenue. Under S-corporation loopholes finagled by Wall Street controlled Republicans, cash-soaked leviathans like General Electric, Exxon Mobil, Halliburton, and Koch Industries are allowed to set up hundreds of shell or dummy "small businesses" (i.e., entities that exist only on paper), which then allows the parent company to avoid taxes by having their profits taxed at small business rates, which is why Republicans are always clamoring to protect "small businesses," also known in Republican parlance as the "imaginary job creators." Middleclass Americans cannot allow the economy to be held hostage by the GOP's fealty to the rich."

stopthemadness69

1685 Fans

"So we can gut amtrak, PBS and the arts in order to save 2.15 billion a year, BUT we can't cut the 4 billion per year in tax goodies we give oil, gas, and coal? And what the he!! is the point of redoing the tax code at all, if the plan is revenue nuetral? That's like dad moving the family across the country, uprooting their lives, so he can get a better job, only to have the exact same job after the move. What's the point? I can't believe Romney and Ryan are suggesting that a country that is so poor it must cut food and healthcare for the poor, education for our future generations, air and water and food safety regulations, research and development grants, medicare, medicaid ect, is a country that can afford to give it's highest paid 2% another tax cut? I knew that Ryan was a huge Ayn Rand fan, but didn't know much about her until yesterday, suddenly the Romney Ryan plan makes perfect sense. It's still utter and total greedy BS though. Ayn Rand believed that it is of the utmost importance to have really rich people in a society and that those rich folks must be protected from taxes, and regulations and anything that would in any way hinder their ability to amass more and more wealth. That my fellow americans is the belief of the men running for the whitehouse on the GOP side."

realpolitic

3581 Fans

" And it raised again the question of how his overall tax plan -- which extends the Bush tax cuts, reduces individual rates by 20 percent, eliminates taxes on investment income for middle- and lower income taxpayers, repeals the alternative minimum tax and gets rid of the estate tax -- wouldn't balloon the deficit."

"Of course, it would balloon the deficit. Conservatives who have all of a sudden found fiscal religion with a Democratic president would again ignore deficits as long as they go to serve tax cuts for the rich. Conservatives reflexively vote against their own economic interests. Ryan himself has admitted, that given all the tax cuts for the wealthy inherent in his budget it is dependent on eliminating middle class loopholes to get anywhere near a balance. Now Romney says middle class tax loopholes are off the table. With another Republican in office, it will be deficits as far as the eye can see all to give the rich even more."

peacekitten 

3430 Fans

"the right wing will never admit that their economic plans are not in any way, shape or form, designed to either balance the budget or improve society.

they are nothing but s;avage, cro;ma;gnon style social engineering designed to produce an america of an extremely small self-annointed, super-rich class of royalty and serfdom for everyone else.

people forget that RRe*gan once made a joke that the california educational system had to be gutted because it was producing so many educated people that it was nearly impossible to find a decent butler anymore for cheap.

then he proceeded to ruin what was once the best public education system in the country.
they may try to male it seem like they are kidding about these things, but they are not. they are very serious. they place no value on anyone that isn't them, and according to a recent psychological study of the very wealthy, that even includes their own children. they are hoarding money and power strictly for themselves and don't even want to pass anything on to their own progeny.

it's a level of selfishness that's unprecedented and incredibly sad. it has to be stopped.
"

From Yahoo, various articles and commentary:

anon

"Extreme republicans and extreme democrats seem to be at war already... while the majority of the quieter U.S. "moderates" prefer to go unheard, it seems...

"What an ugly mess," we may say. "What awful noise... I certainly don't want to get caught up in that!"

But do you know what I think? No, no one probably cares, but I'll say it anyway:

Have you ever been in a classroom where the teacher called for silence? Bit by bit, the kids begin to talk... Eventually, each person ends up speaking louder to be heard over the other person until everyone is shouting. What good is a shouting teacher going to do in such chaos? But the voice that is quiet, the voice that is calm and serene... Because it is so hard to hear, the class quiets down, and tries to listen, tries to hear...

We are too offensive, and we put people on the defensive far too often. There are those who would disagree with my views, and then there are those who would beat them to a pulp because it's "not my right" to state my opinion, but heaven forbid I have any contrary, or try to stifle another's views...

What the politicians have failed to do, and what WE AS AMERICANS have failed to do, is to uphold, or even bring back the common virtues upon which this country was founded! Dignity, integrity, common courtesy, common SENSE, the ability to AGREE TO DISAGREE, yet to do so respectfully... It is not about right or wrong, or even parties... It is about the fact that whenever someone opens his or her mouth, he or she can expect a retaliation, an attack, and immediately, we are on the defensive. In our fright, we lash out at others, those who do not share our opinions. When we look back, we'll say, "My, that escalated quickly!" Ultimately, we play the blame game, myself included. What does that gain us?

I have spoken with many an intelligent person who did not share my political or personal views, but they remained RESPECTFUL of my right to carry out a perfectly calm conversation with them, and though I did not agree, I found myself learning, expanding my ideas and learning more as to what I believe, and whether I believe it FOR MYSELF.

I honestly believe, though, that behind all of this, all of the ideals, that any man-made system is destined to fail. However, human pride will now allow us to think that way; we have to be right, we HAVE to be. THAT is our downfall. When we place the importance on parties, on being right, on having the last say, we forget that we are supposed to be living in this country together, that it doesn't necessarily matter "who is right", but rather, that we respect one another's voices and opinions. In an imperfect system, what do we have left when even the foundations of such a system, it's people, begin to crumble?

Abraham Lincoln said it best: "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

The issue is not politics, or even personal beliefs... Rather, the problem occurs when we stop acting humanely and respectfully toward others...

I have always said and stand by my statement that my personal views and beliefs govern my political views, not the other way around.

I know there are many who will probably call me ignorant, who will hate me or will leave negative comments on this one. You know what I say to that? Fine. But I'd also like to say this: I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY OPINION! I never said you have to have to agree with it.

I hope all of you (Democrat, Republican, Independent, and other) have a wonderful day, and I can say that sincerely and honestly."
From Robert:

"The only people ignorant of reality are conservatives on the far right side and stop ignoring what Jesus taught, Biblical values, doctrines and principals and learn to stop going to war, owning guns, cutting programs for the sick, poor, needy and disabled and then claiming you are Pro Life. And learn to love and forgive your enemy's, even those you dislike, such as President Obama. Most of my friends in Canada, The UK, Spain, Europe, etc. all laugh at the hypocrisy, nonsense and contradictions that most American conservatives display here."

"Only conservatives do retarded things, like claim rape is a gift from God or can't make you pregnant, take away programs from the poor, needy, sick, disabled, unemployed, elderly, minority's, women, children, blue collar workers, which Jesus taught us to take care of, ignore or misinterpret the Bible, hate your enemy's instead of love them, and want to save the unborn here but destroy it elsewhere through war, cutting programs for the average American and hatred, fear, bigotry, racism and prejudice and many other hypocrisies, contradictions and logical fallacies, etc."

Well said, guys!

Peace out.

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